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Jay Sekulow -- a member of President Trump's legal team -- addresses whether the president is being investigated by the FBI. Republican Senator Marco Rubio explains why an investigation into Russia's involvement in the presidential election is in the country's best interest. Plus -- Senator Bernie Sanders offers his thoughts on the shooting of House Majority Whip Steve Scalise -- as well as the upcoming health care battle in the Senate. All that and more on this week's "Face the Nation."


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Keep up with the latest headlines from Austin and beyond on the on the top thirteen seventy dot com stay informed with the latest news weather contests and more it's all just a click away at talk thirteen seventy dot com just one more way to stay connected with talk thirteen seventy. Today on face the nation a week of tragedy in Washington and a president under investigation. Obstruction of justice a politically motivated shooting prompted the leaders of the nation's most political city to stop. And reflect. In Washington. Do we have quite disagree. But we all agree that we are here to serve this nation we. That people who call at all. That's the source of Yemeni and more than ever we must embrace. Lawmakers on both sides of the aisles spoke of unity and resolve. We are united are English. An attack on one of us is an attack on all a lot. Showing sadness to the American people. He's great values. We've represented. Repeat every day. On both sides of the un. And fury. I am sickened. By this despicable. Act. And let me be as Cleo is all right and be. Violence of any clock. Is unacceptable in our society that thread about crippling inquiry into the heart of the presidency spark a new set of partisan reactions. As investigations into Russian meddling possible trump campaign staff collusion. And presidential obstruction of justice picked up speed and we'll talk with Florida senator Marco Rubio who sits on the intelligence committee. As well as Vermont's Bernie Sanders plus we'll hear from. We'll have plenty of political analysis and finally a very different kind of tribute for the class of Tony seventeen. It's all ahead on face the nation. Good morning and welcome to face the nation I'm John Dickerson. The trump family is off for their first weekend at Camp David after an emotional week here. There's good news this morning as congressman Steve still Lisa's condition has been upgraded from critical to serious. And he is able to speak this family. While the shooting dominated this week's headlines it wasn't the only news. The president himself appeared to confirm his being investigated by the special counsel. Possible obstruction of justice. In a tweet. I am being investigated for firing the FBI director by the man who told me to fire the FBI director witch hunt. Attorney general Jeff Sessions testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee and pushed back against suggestions of any wrongdoing. That app but dissipated in any collusion. That I was aware of any collusion with the Russian government to hurt this country. Which I absurd would honor fought 35 years. Art to undermine the integrity about democratic process. Is an appalling and detestable. Lot. Deputy attorney general rob rose and Stein told congress he saw no reason to fire special counsel Robert Mueller. Despite a friend of mr. Trump's saying the president did. Isn't Stein was also reported to a privately suggested he may have to recuse himself from the Russian investigation. As his boss sessions did in March. President Tran traveled to Miami to announce he was reversing pieces of president Obama's Cuba policy. We now hold the cards the previous administrations. Easing of restrictions on travel and trade does not. Help the Cuban people. They only enrich the Cuban regime. I am canceling. The last administration's. Completely. One sided deal with the. Cuba this morning there are also many questions about Saturday's collision of a Japanese container ship with. The USS FitzGerald off the coast of Japan. Several bodies were found in the Fitzgerald's. Any compartments. But the navy has not announced how many until their families have been notified. And we begin this morning with Florida Republican senator Marco Rubio who joins us from Miami the president is called the investigations. A witch hunt what's your opinion that. Why now he feels very strongly about it my advice to the president as what I've communicated publicly you say that we have tried to communicate to everyone on this issue and that is this. It is in the best interest to the president and the country to have a full investigation I really if I were the president I would be welcoming this investigation I would ask that it be thorough. And completed expeditiously and be very cooperative with the that's what ultimately anticipate they would do. That's in the best interest of the president I really believe that I think it's in the best interest of our country. The that we had a full scale investigation that looks at everything. So that we can move forward. So regardless of what you may think about James Cummings firing his FBI director you think you should be investigated. Well I just think it's important to answer questions because otherwise it people have any doubts that undermines. Confidence and our system of government and our elections and our leaders. As I said I did the best thing that can happen for the president for America is that we have a full scale investigation that's credible. That it is that it reaches its conclusion one way or the other so that we can move on and but at the same time being knowledgeable with we have to know everything the Russians did and how they did it. So that we can prevent this from happening in the future. Let me ask you about what the Russians did you voted for and it's sanctions bill in the senate that would punish the Russians for that meddling do you think the president will sign that when he gets to. I hope so it's important to send that message that this is as I said that the that this is not acceptable. Now a member back in October when those leaks came out and I was I think one of the few Republicans in the country that wouldn't discuss WikiLeaks. Because I don't want that to be a part of our system here. Now we can simply not allow foreign governments. To be meddling and interfering in our elections that way but they're gonna keep doing that they're doing it now we'll keep doing it in the future we need to know how they do it so that Americans. One knowledgeable about that and then take that into account when making their decisions about parts. When you when you're running you have for the senate you talked about the senate being checked against the administration whoever was going to be president do you see this Russian sanctions bill. In that form in other words the administration seems reluctant. To punish Russia for this the senate is stepping in and sang it well we're gonna punish Russia is is that a check essentially on the administration. It is but not perhaps for the reasons people think a lot of people nine into the investigation for say it's more along the lines of the secretary of state believes that. He wants to explore the opportunity to get Russia to be more cooperative on number of issues the foreign policy view that they have. And and so they think that these sanctions may undermine that effort. And while I respect that point of view and have considered it ultimately I think it's incredibly important for us to make clear that there are consequences. For doing what they did during the 2016 elections and that's why I supported these sanctions. Let me ask you about Cuba that's the U consequences there and new provisions the president has put in place to. Put pressure on Cuba free it's human rights record. But when the president so go ahead. Grownups now I wouldn't do it justice putting pressure really don't think this is an effort to strengthen individual humans understand what this does this basically says that American travelers to Cuba. They'll continue to fly on commercial airlines or get there on a cruise. But when they get there they have to spend their money primarily. With individual Cubans who owns private businesses which is what everybody who supported the Obama opening was always bragging about they were saying. There was all these new small businesses. Well we want to put them in a privileged position. And so American travelers to Cuba we'll have to spend their money without them. Instead of the Cuban military that was the goal of this is to empower individual Cubans to be economically independent. Of the Castro military and of the Castro version. Know when the president and gave his speech he said that we will not lift sanctions looming Cuban regime until all political prisoners are freed. He talked about freedom of assembly the talked about all political parties being legalized. So I guess when I was interested in is that when he went to Saudi Arabia he says he's not gonna lecture Saudi Arabia about it's considerably human rights challenges. And what's happening in Yemen and that Saudi Arabia is funding and I wondered if you could square for us on the one hand. A very public lecturing of the Cubans. And no lecturing of countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Turkey and and how do you see that I'm. What couple points first of all when you talked about not lifting sanctions until they have elections that's actually the law. That's the law the United States it's codified under Helms Burton it says that embargo goes away when they meet these conditions and you've outlined them the president outlined them. As far squaring that too. Obviously administration or have to do that because I criticized Saudi Arabia as well. And fact I would not take a backseat to no one on criticizing them or anybody in the world when it comes to human rights and violations or lack of democracy. I will say this however. This is in our region this is ninety miles from our shores the Western Hemisphere 35 years ago was largely controlled by dictators. That basically every nation in this region has had a free and fair election at some point over the last won here fifteen years except for one and that's the island of Cuba. So in our region and our own backyard. We are not going to allow tyranny and dictatorship to grow and the surge. We want to people of Cuba have the same opportunities that people in the Dominican republic of had. The people in Haiti just had the people of Columbia have and that is to be able to vote for their leaders. Let me ask you about domestically they issue of health carrier Republican colleague as senator Ron Johnson said I wanna know exactly what's in the senate bill. It's not a good process what's your assessment of the process of evaluating health care and it's. Yeah it's always tough because it's difficult to put something like this together. You know in front of every camera in the world but ultimately every camera in the world's gonna have to see what senate and we're gonna have to have plenty of time to debate it. So I have no problem with a group of people meeting to conduct. And a proposal but ultimately that proposal cannot be rushed to the floor and and I don't think the senate rules would permit it. So it's fine if they're working on the starting point but ultimately we're all gonna see what's and it. The whole world is gonna see what's in it. And then the rest of us are all of us are gonna have an opportunity to make changes to it as a condition of our vote and so that's the way I view this I this is not the house of the senate is not a place. Where you can just cook up something behind closed doors and Russia for a vote on the floor there's just especially on an issue like this so. They made the first step in this may be crafted among us a small group of people but then everyone's gonna get to weigh and and it's gonna take a lot you know it's gonna take days and weeks that to work through that senate. Finally senator in the shooting this week in Washington what do you think is the lesson. In the aftermath of that. Well over the Amendola person to blame for that shooting as a person who did it is obviously someone had big problems and both mentally and and then another behavior Alina that said I do think it's an important moment for us to understand that violence is the opposite of dialogue. And we in this nation have First Amendment and while the law continues to protect the First Amendment I think we have to ask ourselves. Whether we are culturally cracking down free speech for we've reached the point now. What were blocking people from speaking because we disagree let them. You know to it it's funny on the one hand hear people say we should be engaging in dialogue with Raul Castro and yet you have mainstream politicians in the United States. Being boycotted a graduation speeches across America we cannot have a new. Whole generation of young Americans going up to believe that if you disagree with someone's points of view. The way to do it is to try to shut them down I'm not saying that's a dubbed the shooting I am saying that we have to be as a nation capable of debating issues on the merits of the issues. Without dehumanizing or demonizing the person on the other side. You and I can disagree on the right approach to Cuba taxes or healthcare. I don't have to go around telling you you're evil human being for what you believe in because once you convince them on that the other side is evil. That I think in the minds of a deranged individual is an invitation to commit a violent act against them I'm not blaming the shooting on any Democrats or the left I'm just telling you. Both sides need to think about that as we move forward. All right senator Marco Rubio thanks so much for me thank thank you. Joining us now is Vermont senator Bernie Sanders he's in Burlington senator Sanders I wanna start with this week's. Shooting in talking to senator rubio he said obviously this is the and the man who did the shooting is responsible for his own actions but in the wake of that in this conversation about. What leads to the heated political atmosphere senator sand as senator rubio pointed out he said that. When people try to stop free speech from Pete stop people from talking it creates pressure in the system that that might cause people to act out what do you think about there. Our biggest write book of freedom of speech the right to decide the right to protest that is what America is about. And politically every leader in this country and every every American has got to stand up against any form of violence. That is unacceptable and I certainly hope and pray that were present the police have think full recovery. A from the tragedy that took place of this week. There's been a lot of protests on campus and when people come to speak they've been people of protested and said they shouldn't be allowed to speak where do you come down on that in the context of this. Put pressure on free speech. I think people have a right to speak and you have a right if you're on a college campus not to attend. You have a right to ask Claude questions about the speaker if you disagree with them are. But what what what should we be afraid of somebody coming on a campus or any place else. And speaking of right to protest but I don't I don't quite understand why anybody thinks it's a good target for the life. But somebody else the right to express his or her point of view. I think John what is very clear is we are at a contentious. Well in difficult political moment. In our country's history. All I have very grave concerns. About the trump agenda alone right now we will we will looking. We're not looking there's a health care proposal in the senate which nobody has seen yet. But the proposal to pass the house that you know would throw 23. Million Americans all of health insurance and and that to me is just. Incredible. Thought it would raise premiums vary significantly for old look workers would defund planned turn it wouldn't tonight. Two and a half million women the right because the health care that they want cut Medicaid by over 800 billion dollars. Although you know we all I didn't I would say the vast majority of the American people have strong disagreements without approach. What you don't have to be violent about it. Let's disagree. Openly and honestly but violence with moderates. And I wanna get to the details of that health care plan and amount of northern but the details you don't know what the moment and let me just staying on this question here. I think you know what it and again witness is such a strange moment is we are looking a lot of this on us moves that comes across where people lying outrageously about other people. And I hope that. Folks on wall slights could say look I disagree with him or her but that is an outrageous. Law you know we. But let us on the they had be frank. Is there are all real differences of opinions. Laws that exist in in congress that spotlight you know. You you mentioned Marco Rubio I'd like Marco Rubio. Of what we disagree on issues and and and people should understand the plot that there's all kinds of hatred there's look in the congress there's a fundamental disagreement. President trump made you a brought forth a budget. Which will go nowhere. But this is a budget that over 810 year period. We give three trillion dollars in tax breaks. To the top 1% the very wealthiest families in America while making massive cuts in education and health care up. Like in nutrition programs really devastate. Working class of this country I disagree with that. But obviously that debate has got to be played out based on the facts. And let's debate it. Let me move here now to health care who you mentioned some of the policy differences but there is a procedural debate going on about how this is being handled in the senate. Some Democrats are suggesting because the because you don't know what's in the bill on the bills being worked on in in secret to just stop all senate business to just shut the place down as a way to kind of and force play they are you on board with that. Joined here is the situation we know the legislation that passed the house. It was the worst piece of legislation frankly against working class people. Well I can remember all in my political life in the congress for 23 million people off of health insurance is beyond belief. Now in the said it what you have is sure how I believe it is ten Republicans. Working behind closed the laws. Who would press 16. Of the American economy that's what health care is. Republicans the Albert Republican doesn't even know what's in that legislation. My understanding is that will be brought. Fourth. Just immediately before we have to vote on it. This is completely unacceptable. I mean nobody can defend a process which will impact tens of millions of America that nobody even knows what's on the legislature and John the important point via. Is the reason they don't wanna bring it public. Is because it is a disastrous bill I suspect similar to what passed in the house who is going to defend. Cutting Medicaid by 800 billion dollars for the same time if you give. Method tax breaks for the wealthiest 2%. So they wanna keep it secret they don't want the media involved don't want members of congress involved and at the last minute they present that they push should throw. And that is 16 of the American economy. And millions of people were often help interest that is unacceptable I believe Democrats to do everything that had to oppose that legislation in any way that we can. All right senator Sanders we are at our last minutes of thanks so much for being witnessed after Wednesday's shooting congressman Gary Palmer said our republic is in danger. We are fraying at the edges. Congressman Rodney Davis said the way we talk to each other has changed. The political hate pass to end. It's not the words we use it's what's in our hearts. We are meaner than we used to being according to the Pew Research Center a majority of both parties see the other in very unfavorable terms a view that is doubled. Since 1994. We used to think our opponents were just wrong now a lot more of us think they are evil politics defines more of our lines which means this is all more personally felt. The political system uses hate to motivate voters know fundraising letter or get out the vote flyer starts pay the other guy has a point. Instead the other guys cropped and heartless. In debates in social partisan and mainstream media if you were skilled at pointing out dark motives in your opponents. The market will reward you. We can stop applauding this and we can stop taking the bait. We can start acting in the ways we praise after a tragedy recognizing our common humanity acting with restraint assuming good motives. Your opponents have families just like you do who would worry about them in a crisis. Their kids amazed and confused them just like yours do. Bumping people into groups steals the humanity we recognize in times of tragedy judging motives off the bat starts commerce Asian in the gutter. This doesn't mean ending the battle of ideas in means returning to ideas. And not being lazy and defining other people by the left or the right. Or you were ilk. Let's hope the lawmakers are successful toning down hate but we can do more than hope we can act and we must because we are all part of the problem. Back in a moment. Keep up with the latest breaking news in Austin and around the world take a moment to make sure you're following us on Twitter at top thirteen 7011 trading began. Just one more way to stay connected with top thirteen cent indeed the right choice. Then we're back from our political panel to nobility is slates chief political correspondent and the CBS news political analyst. Ramesh and Nauru is a senior editor for the national view. We're also joined by CBS news chief congressional correspondent Nancy Cortes and we want to welcome the Washington Post White House bureau chief. Philip Rucker for the broadcast. And Tim start with you though you have spent so much time up on the hill after the shooting Wednesday can you sense that the the feeling the temperature and atmosphere in the wake up. Well you know every member of congress knows in the sense that they are target they've all gotten death threats. They all have a story about someone who's vandalized their property or someone who was arrested. For making such extreme threat. But they go about their daily lives with that knowledge in the background otherwise it really wouldn't be able to get out there meet the public can do their jobs now it's in the forefront and I heard many members say this week just that there worried about themselves. But there are a lot more worried about their staffers because those are often the people who are on the front lines here in Washington and in their home districts. And they are not really sure what the solution is how you stop amendment like us. Now Phil the president and has had there is the first kind of thing like this he's had to respond to what did you make of the White House and the president's response. I thought this response that morning of the shooting was really different had a different tone from him he was presidential. He talked about uniting the country. And I think he's starting to recognize the danger of this political rhetoric that we're all dealing with that you spoke about a few minutes ago. And and he's at the forefront of that I mean it's his tweets at his comments that is rallies. That is still being so much certain to anger and emotion out there in the country and he's trying to use the bully pulpit of the presidency to combat found that. Mention how long do you think that if things have changed haven't they and how many on here. Last. Wildly precedent is that the tendencies towards increased polarization. Less civil rhetoric. That just keeps increasing their these momentary pauses I don't see any reason to doubt that that's what's happening now. I'm always reminded recover presidential elections every four years Tyoka bill's comment. That is like a national crisis is like a national fever and then after the election passes. This time it doesn't feel like the fever broke. In Janelle in the way people talked about the event itself it seems. Wherever you started the conversation might get you into an immediate fight again I mean whether it was about guns and others about rhetoric the president or what went in Jamaica this week. Right it was it was striking because I got this into some people are trying not to make this a little conversation not to make it something so politicized because. Kerry bidders some adjustment to crass about trying to. Turn and they're shooting of a congressman and partisan football. At the same time there are legitimate issues here and I felt people were struggling trying to get this in the forefront some of those legitimate issues are guns are domestic violence the shooter. Was arrested for the mass thousands of men and all of that acting got a little lost in this drive Ted not politicize. Our we're gonna and his. Air briefly. When it take a little break next up is chase secular on president trumps legal team and then we'll have a lot more from our panel still with us. Take a talk with you anywhere we'd be on the news talk thirteen seventy app lets you stay keep up with the latest breaking news and our search for top thirteen seventy in the App Store or find the links at top thirteen seven. Welcome back to face the nation we're joined now by. Mr. sector on 1 rooms start this morning with the president's tweet in which he wrote I am being investigated for firing the FBI director by the man who told me to fire the FBI director. Witch hunt. What's he talking about. The president issued that week on social media. Because of the report in the Washington Post from five anonymous sources none of which of course anyone knows about. Alleging that the president was under investigation in this reported big expanded probe. The fact of the matter is the president has not been and is not under investigation. So this was his response via Twitter by social media. Was in response to the Washington Post. Peace with five anonymous sources and by the way John five anonymous sources they don't even identify the agency's upon which these individuals reportedly worked so the response there. Is clearly a wanna be very clear about this the president is not and has not been under investigation patty now. Because we've received no notice an investigation. There's been no notification. From the special counsel's office that the president is under investigation in fact of the conference. What we know is what James Cummings said though blessed thing we know when he testified just a couple weeks back that the president was not an is not the target of an investigation. Of course there have been immense sense James coming told him that is it even easier view and just educate viewers that that if he were under investigation there would be an obligation for the special counsel to let you know could you be under investigation they're just not letting you know yet. Well look I I I can't imagine that the scenario where the president wouldn't would not be aware of it number one there's a serious constitutional issue here I mean I want you to think about. The context upon which this would take place under the Washington post's theory of the case this'll Washington Post there. That the president of the United States after being advised by his attorney general and the office of the deputy attorney general. Determined to remove James homey from the FBI directorship. If the Washington Post links were correct. The president of the United States would be if this was correct under investigation. For taking the action that the Department of Justice. Asked him to take. That raises not only serious not a shares custer's question it's an easy constitutional question that's impossible than the president. Cannot be investigated. Resort Gabi found liable. For engaging in activity that he clearly has power to do under the constitution. Powers to our the FBI director and then let me ask you this question I'm coming now is that by the way Johnny. More broadly the big question really is to get the present interfere in any way in the investigation James coming was undertaking. No in fact he sent to the contrary when you remember and in part of the interviews that he's given. He acknowledged that when he removed James combing especially during the Lester hold interview when you were read the entire context that transcript. Of that interview he knew knowledge up by firing James Tomei as FBI director the president acknowledged that he would in fact. Probably extend the wolf nature lent the scope of the FBI April the special counsel probe. But he he thought it was to be the best for the American people I look up. I've got the letter let me ended the to a letter from both the nine it's important here. The FBI. Director was removed after deliberative process. And in part based on of course the statements coming from his own attorney general and deputy attorney general who set I wanna read this as a result the FBI is unlikely to regain public. And congressional trust until it hasn't director who understands the gravity of the mistakes and pledges to never repeat and having refuse to admit his error is the director cannot be expected. To implement the necessary corrective changes so this is not coming out of whole cloth. Let this is coming out of recommendation yes. The president said he would have been speak under oath about all this that I sin is still true. The president was very clear about that he said that if he was not asked to do he would be that for an Aston and been addressed. Again when he a got to be clear here with congress when he because what do you got this investigation going on takes a long time he can kind of short circuit by just going up to congress senator Graham and others have called him to testify in front of congress could that get at is faster. Well that doesn't shirts but I short circuit any fingers in multiple tracks of investigations going on here which is problematic because once the special counsel was appointed. It changes the nature of who candidate will operatives abate before congress so I would discuss that with the president. At all he stated he would test the minor road he didn't specify the venue we'll just leave that as it is again that there are multiple. Tracks of investigation but again I wanna be clear here. The president. Has not under investigation James Coleman said it nothing has changed since that. If the president said last week he would release the tapes. If there were tapes of his conversation this week that hasn't happened where is that. And if presidents could address that in the week ahead of there was a lot of issues this past week the president gave a major address in Cuba we had the assassination attempt of of Steve's police there are a lot of intervening factors so the issue of the tapes. I think right now was not priority issue number one when the country is facing an assassination attempt. On Steve police and other members of congress and their staffs by the way. And our thoughts and personal with Illinois and still in very difficult situation. But also I give a major address on the situation in Cuba and the attempt bear to. Reconcile and re draft the policy that makes sense so other president has a lot of issues I think this shows the president has concentrated on governing. This issue will be addressed in due course I suspect next week. All right Jay secular thanks so much. Thank you for having me. And we're back now with our political panel fail. The president said he was being investigated by the his lawyer now suggest he was just an ad basically re tweeting may be something that close to where are we. This while I can tell you Washington Post my colleagues share reported based on a on US officials that the president. Is indeed under investigation. That is an investigation into his potential obstruction of justice in addition to a number of others other issues related to the Russian matter. Now the president may not have been given any sort of formal notice about back but that doesn't mean. That Moeller a special counsel is not investigating him. Remission Jason killers arguments. Need to be that because the president has the power under I guess the unitary executive the fire his FBI director. That's at he has the he has the power and and that sort of open and shut the case but it doesn't seem like it well. Well I think there are a number of potential problems with outline of argument one is that if you're doing something corrupt clique that raises a separate set of militias. And two is that there's a question of political accountability. It is certainly true that it's within the constitutional power the president. To pardon anybody who commits a crime in his name for example but that doesn't mean. That the house and senate would or should treat that so as just par for the course. Nixon's will be articles of impeachment against him. Clinton the articles of impeachment against him. Both referred to obstruction of justice so the idea that there's no accountability for that is I think just not true to our constitutional tradition. You know the first kind of question that the residents learned to clear up was one about something the president tweeted. Although they say and the president says this is a great thing for me but if he had not tweeted about this investigation we wouldn't of had to spend the time talking about it. Is is he basically building this case for himself by what he says. I think. I think that's a fair thing to say if you look at sort of this entire saga so much of it is self inflicted so much of it stems from. Choices. The the president made impulsive firings for example. Tweets. Going on in. Having interviews and national outlets and simply simply saying outright that he's and I fired director called me because of this process stuff. Had the president. Simply shown more discretion. He would not be in this mess and you were sort of in this sort of feedback loop where the president's lack of discretion. Results in investigations are pushed back which then fuel further lack of discretion which then fuels you know further investigation of course back. And that's why so many congressional Republicans wish that he would just stop tweeting because they worry that if he wasn't in trouble. With a special counsel before he is now because of the things that he saying publicly and they also worry that he's essentially taunting. These investigators you know if you're saying to these investigators your fake news your witch hunt they Wear that's just going to. Embolden them really don't want to be on the wrong side of the FBI and the special counsel. But it's not just what he tweaks he said on the record in an interview that he fired homey because he was upset about the Russian investigation. That's kind of thing to do secular I was trying to Beryl past in his interview with you. And you know with the president lacks impulse control sense of self discipline that's not a problem that the mean of Twitter. Phil is there any. Solution to this challenge that they kind of have to keep dealing with here which is that the president is that in a sense taking himself off message. In this solution would be for him to focus on his agenda and lay out Twitter that we've shown that he's done that's not really possible. Look he's in a White House doing over this he's angry he's confining and friends about this frustration with the Russian matter the clown. As he's referred to it over and over again. And I don't know where where this and we were currently have the White House staffing up with lawyers vice president pence just tired of them council. The president Trump's lawyer in New York Michael Cohen has hired his own lawyer so they're clearly preparing for a much more serious investigation. Net and that's or see it quite expensive for those have to pay all those legal bills which creates. And tension in a White House in addition everything else we've been talking about in the Nancy Jeff Sessions the attorney general testified this week. A lot of democratic senators were frustrated they weren't getting answers from and where does that stand are they gonna get those answers they wanted to specifically in this case about the firing James coming. Probably not because they really have no recourse in congress to somehow compel him to answer questions about his conversations. With the president and you really soft split this week between Democrats who thought. You know there really is no written policy that prevents him from sharing what he said to the president what the president said to him about James call me or anything else. And Republicans have said no there really is a tradition the president's top advisors. Do you need to be able to keep those conversations confidential because the president has a right to. You know free information and guidance from the people around him he can't be thinking that anything he says to them is going to end up. In congress or in the public space. We do now I thought that and actually attorney general sessions because he was able to Seneca and hard about that destruction things and was able to defend himself on the collusion actually ended up in him. Helping the White House. House this week break think is being attorney general sessions is reduced in panicked denials of collusion. In that yet taking some heat away from president trump. Suggesting it that team they're attentive. Almost conspiracy pits and sketched with regards to collusion is overstated. And sit and if you know if the president could show more discretion would've I think. It really helped the president politically this past week. Going forward but the problem of course is that sessions could give those kind of politically helpful performances again and again and again. But as long as the president is unwilling to temper what he says I in whatever form it kind of is a watch and yet. It did in in this whole context the White House had have the president and cabinet meeting this week I wanna take a look look at a little bit evidence and then. From national reading your thoughts about what we think this was intended to do let's take a look. President what an incredible honor is to tune leave our health and services at this pivotal time under your leadership I can't thank enough for the privileges. You hear that she's show tonight plus it was a great infrastructure we thank you so much for coming over to digital. He's malicious filled room hanging out watching. Good morning. Entire senior staff around Mr. President we thank you for the opportunity and blessing any news or your agenda. The American. And newer tires didn't. We managed. Cabinet meetings like this tend to be shall we at the start we're live we're familiar to that but this still was a little bit different. While it was the first time he's got this entire cabinet assembled for a meeting and T. I just wanted to put on a show. It's just amongst some of the cabinet members not all it seemed to devolved into a contest about who could praise the president most fulsome link. And I'd say that the chief of staff Wright's previous one. That contest. You know go going away. Sutton put a lot of the others they were just saying thank you for the honor to be able to serve the public is I think a pretty and a dying kind of statement that can. People in both parties when it's right. Look these are Smart people they know what works with this president it's like the saudis putting that. Ten story high image of him up on a building they know what he reacts to they're all competing to get his attention. I had to get him to embrace their proposals. For how to move their particular department forward and they know that one of the quickest ways to do that is to flatter. The filly who was busy in there is an orchestrated feel to it and canister mesh quite rightly puts it this is not totally unfamiliar then you know cabinet members. Praising the boss but it's still they it they all seem to have been given a memo. And what I wonder is whether this tells us anything about the sense of where this president feels the end in either under siege she's talked about being. Under siege whether he feels it personally whether this was an effort to kind of beat back quarter were put forward some kind of strategy or whether it was just about. Saying nice things about the personal clearly the president feels like his whole presidency is under siege and under attack. But these cabinet members when they introduced him at events in public individually. They say the same thing vice president pants says it everywhere he goes broad shouldered leader of the amazing sort of president Donald. And it's sort of like the dear leader language you hear out of North Korea or another country we're not used to that in the United States for president charm response to that he feels like this is very much a personal. Sort of leadership style that he has and he wants to to be praised and and it works. You know let's switch quickly to health care. Sanity is trying to put together a bill the president apparently told some senators that he thought the house bill and come out had been mean who was mean where do you see things right now office. An important part of that trouble here is that we don't really know what is in the senate bill that's being crafted in almost complete secrecy. It's key senators are. Unwilling to speak about its contents of box dot com did a series of interviews of eight senators who to a person could not describe. How the bill and they are considering meet their goals. And so it's substantively. It's it's just really difficult to say whether or not percent of those going to be less mean and in the house bill. And I think it is clear that majority leader McConnell. Is desperate to get something across the finish line is trying to in sleep has members from any kind of political or public pressure and I think. Trump scandals have had this effect of making that even more urgent and that the longer it the president is sort of under scrutiny the longer. Our little conversations focused on the presence. I've. Misconduct perhaps the more difficult it is for them to do anything. Nancy Mitch McConnell is Smart guy knows how to do things what's his strategy here well you know his challenge is if you're not gonna do the house bill 'cause it's mean. And if you're not going to do obamacare because you think that's a failure. Your universe of options is quite small so they're trying to thread this needle in private they're trying to craft something that is somehow going to get fifty members. Of their caucus you know the most conservative and most moderate. And that's. Incredibly difficult it's pretty clear at this point they're not going to need their self imposed deadline for the beginning of July just because. Time is running out they don't have information and from the CBO about what this would cost and what it would mean and they promised to do that before they try to pass them and thirty cent. Had a long conversation with a member of the senate Republican working group on Friday I get the impression they're very serious decisions that are still not made. How how many people and be eligible for Medicaid what's the growth rate going to be I I agree I don't think that they are close to hitting the Stanley. And you've. The question also is in the way they're doing it don't they run up against criticism they had about the Affordable Care Act which actually did have lots of bipartisan discussion. Actually I think senator rubio is going to probably be joined by other Republicans in saying. Whatever the process by which are drafting this you've got to have an extended conversation you can't just ram this through once it's. Put together you can. And that's the end of our extended conversation thanks to all of you. We turn now to CBS this morning cohost Norah O'Donnell who joins us from salt where she will be interviewing the president of South Korea president me JN. Hi John and greetings yes from here in Seoul south create is a new day here in this country in part because there's a new president. Who is promising a change in strategy president and was elected just last month and what he's talking about. It's going back to the sunshine policy of opening a dialogue. With the north and that as a significant change a significant break from the past decade in fact president noon. Just this week that he wants to sit need to meet. With the North Korean dictator. President Kim Jung. And during your interview comes at an important time as well for his relations with the state that the United States. The timing is incredibly significant because president noon it's heading to Washington and the White House to meet with. Presidents cup and that relationship. Between the South Korean president and the US president is incredibly important is one the most important strategic alliance is. In Asia and part of the world we've for the Defense Secretary Mattis. Saying that North Korea's nuclear weapons program. Is he most urgent threat to US national security how will president trump and president and work together we forty seen the new president. Create some distance with the United States one of his advisors saying just today that they're talking about their own anti missile program. What about the status of the 28000. US troops who are stationed here. There's talk about in a concession perhaps to the Chinese are to the north to talk about reducing the number of joint military exercises so all of those things are on the table. As this president in particular is looking at a way to find a solution. To North Korea's nuclear program. And incredibly delicate time and we're happy to have you they're nor it's a bit of a homecoming for you a little bit. My dad served in that US army for thirty years I was. Stationed here my dad was stationed at the young son army garrisons actually lived. On military base fourteen years when I was about ten. Years old so. It's been awhile it's been thirty years since I've been here so it's it's. Really exciting for me be back here and it's taken tour. That garrison I tomorrow see if my old home. Hunt is is still there but also it's just significant because. They're talking about moving most of our troops from young sons went another base further away from the DNC so I have a lot to learn. And also because I think this is just a new time as I said earlier with this new president president news. Going to the White House what is this gonna mean for the future of the Korean Peninsula. Or O'Donnell on assignment nor thanks so much. Again nor is interview will air on CBS this morning Tuesday at 7 AM eastern and Pacific and also throughout the day on our digital network CBS N. Commencement season is just about wrapped up and as we take a look at some of our favorite speeches this year instead of focusing on the famous. We thought we'd share in the fresh wisdom of the graduates themselves. They spoke the languages of the world. Friends and fellow graduates. Well done. In Aramaic. Aha and it was not hot. Or in the words that confuses. You upon the on lap we look cool. And they did that with the millennial touch. But first let me take self. They braved the elements. Think you add Atlantic are hanging out and raining we usually transferred one over without missing a beat. Hidden in our stories are silences. The critically shaped our experiences. They showed us they were listening. When we thought they were just wasting their time. But not taught us love yourself. And stay optimistic. Even some hard. Out there are taught me to question authority questioned how I didn't even need the most convenient and today. And in their enthusiasm for the lessons of life they showed us that they were actually paying attention to the important stuff to. Remember that typical roles ought to lead to beautiful destinations. Don't worry about your failures. Were about the chances you miss when you don't even try. Worry about the direction falling. Off forward never backward S. Cherish within your hearts the love of those characteristics which will make you the best parent. Partner coworker and friend. Don't silence those who have been silenced their own lives. Often it's quiet person in the corner who has the best stuff to say. And lastly for the love of god shut up and listen. Let her aides the end of ads against calorie dense Pope I defense against its fan compassion. I'd offense against destruction. The class of 2017. From Spelman College in Atlanta. To eighteen university in New Jersey. And Boise State University. To West Point. Graduates we salute you. Night. And. That's it for us today to all the fathers out there happy Father's Day thanks for watching until next week to face the nation I'm John Dickerson. Today's guests were senators Marco Rubio in the executive producer of face the nation is Mary Mapes to senior producer is still tax. And struck us was directed by Brian Nelson. 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